[13:57:05] <TModerator> ok, uskoro pocinjemo

 <TModerator> pravila su sljedeca - chat je na engleskom, pitanja postavljate na engleskom. ako ne znate engleski, pitajte na hrvatskom pa cemo prevesti, a odgovor ce biti na engleskom, ofkors
 <TModerator> možete postavljati prva pitanja, david će početi za koju minutu

[14:00:40] <David_Icke> Hello everyone ... this is David ...
[14:00:43] <TModerator>  First of all, hello David. I' ve seen  couple statues of the reptiles on the building at the Zagreb main square. What are they represent?
[14:02:24] <David_Icke> The Reptilian story is long and complex and has many levels, but one of them is certainly the amazing number of Reptilian representations ancient and moderd. Not only in statues as you speak of, but also in symblic imagery like the dragons of the Far East.
[14:02:38] <TModerator> How do you define conspiracy theory - it seems that it's used like a curse word in a last few years, something that authority uses to discredit the oponents, like - conspiracy theorist = nutjob
[14:04:21] <David_Icke> Yes, it seems that many people find it impossible to say the word 'conspiracy' without putting 'theory' after it. But, in fact, there is enormous amounts of detailed evidence to show that it is happening and has been happening for thousands of years.
[14:04:40] <TModerator> First thank you for coming to Croatia. I am a memeber of a small group of people (friends) that have been doing similar research as David Icke. And over the past 7 years we have come to the same conclusions as you - David did. BTW, we follow you all the time. Nothing missed...
[14:07:30] <TModerator> malo smo usporili, tehnicki problemi,sad cemo to rijesit
[14:08:03] <TModerator>  Who were leaders from ex-yu countries? (Tudjman, Milosevic etc.) Were they rep
[14:09:29] <David_Icke> I have no idea about that ... leaders come mainly in two kinds - the majority who are pawns in a game they don't understand and the few, very few, who know what they are doing.
[14:09:44] <TModerator>  According to our researches everything you say, we agree 95%... And with this 95%, we agree over a billion percent. And we can only thank you for the great contribution. But, the 5% of matter differs from what we've found. And I would like you to comment on this 5% of difference, that I can explain
[14:10:07] <David_Icke> Margaret Thatcher in the Uk for example had no idea what master she was really serving ...
[14:11:14] <David_Icke> but she did what was required because she stood for an economic policy that the manipulators wanted in the 1980s. On the otherside of the Atlantic at the same time Ronald reagan was president and introduced the same economic policies ...
[14:11:47] <TModerator>  This 5% consits mainly of the final UFO staged up game, by Lockheed Martin, McDonald Douglas etc... Where man made UFO's atatck earth. Do you know anything about this ?
[14:12:26] <David_Icke> ... one was called Thatcherism and the other Reaganomics, but it was the same .... give everything to the global corporations through 'privatisation'.
[14:12:57] <David_Icke> Neither would have had much idea of the big picture they were serving, though Reagan  knew more than Thatcher.
[14:13:04] <TModerator>  What's your favorite beer
[14:13:40] <David_Icke> Politicians and 'leaders' come and go, but 'the force' is always there and that's why nothing chnages for the better for the people.
[14:14:20] <David_Icke> I don't drink beer since I decided to get fit .. pity, but that's life.
[14:14:33] <TModerator> Dear Mr. Icke, I am aware if family who is trough Y-DNA extensive testing confirmed as descendants of the ASHINA Royal Dynasty of Khazars. They converted on Judaism in 740 AD. Are they of the reptilian line
[14:15:15] <David_Icke> It certainly seems that there is a major connection between the Khazars and the Sumerian people of what is now Iraq.
[14:15:42] <David_Icke> The Reptilian lines are not in one people or another, but infiltrated all peoples in the end ...
[14:16:05] <David_Icke> So all races will have the hybrid bloodline, but it will be the few not the many ...
[14:16:39] <David_Icke> An eye scientist said recenty that of the 2,300 eyes he studdied in detail in a recent project ...
[14:17:46] <David_Icke> around 4 per cent were 'of reptilian type'. But when it comes to what are said to be 'royal' bloodlines they are usally of the hybrid line because thatis the idea, to put the bloodline into power.
[14:17:48] <TModerator> REAL QUESTION: Illimuniati (Rockfellers, Rotschillds, Morgans, with all secret societtes etc...) are apparently ready to stage up a fake UFO attack on the earth. They will request people to get microchipped.... as this ET war goes off. Any ideas about this
[14:18:07] <David_Icke> This is called Project Bluebeam ...
[14:18:49] <David_Icke> The idea is to stage a fake attack by 'ETs' to make the world 'come together' to meet the 'threat' ...
[14:19:29] <David_Icke> But it will not be about 'coming together', but centralised control, not least of armed forces. Whether they will play this out ...
[14:20:12] <David_Icke> is open to question, but it is interesting that more information about 'UFO activity' is being released bz governments now than ever before ...
[14:20:14] <TModerator>  what do you think will happen in 2012?
[14:21:14] <David_Icke> I have long talked about a massive change or transformation in human consciousness that is coming, in fact is alway here compared with what thing were like 20 years ago when I started on this journey of discovery.
[14:21:53] <David_Icke> People are waking up to see the world and themselves in a new and more expanded awareness. By 2012 this will be much more advanced still.
[14:23:20] <David_Icke> I am not one who believes that everything will change on one day in 2012, but I do say that it represents a period of great change and the transormation of human awareness. It is already happened, though far from the majoriy yet.
[14:23:21] <TModerator> Enjoy your time in Croatia? First impressions?:)
[14:24:17] <David_Icke> I know that people go into other countries and say 'I love your country', but I never been so taken by a place that I have seen for the first time.
[14:24:18] <TModerator>  are you going to watch the game tonight?
[14:25:17] <David_Icke> I am so happy to be here because of the energy of the place, the hospitality and the number of people I have met already who are 'awake'. I would love to come back many times.
[14:26:06] <David_Icke> No, I can't see the match because I am working, but I think England have a real big job on their hands. They have been playing really poorly for a long time now.
[14:26:23] <David_Icke> Oh my god, no.
[14:27:02] <David_Icke> This is one of the points I have been trying to make in the media here because you still have a chance no to be caught in that terrible web of deceit and control
[14:27:54] <David_Icke> I have been writing about the EU for 15 years at least and exposing its agenda for a centralised superstate that would make the countries within mere regions of a totalitarian state
[14:28:40] <David_Icke> Today, 70 to 75% of laws introduced in the UK come from the EU and not the British Parliament and that's nothing compared with what is planned.
[14:28:43] <TModerator>  why thiese reptilians or iluminati or whoever is controlling the world didnt just make you "disapear" since you have been exposing them .If they posess power to rule the world they could have easly get rid of david icke
[14:29:27] <David_Icke> It would be so ironic to have Croatia, which has been through so much to secure its independence, to have it given away to the EU bureaucrats with the swish of a pen.
[14:30:24] <David_Icke> This question of why I am still alive is long and complex and needs quite a bit of background, but I would say this ...
[14:31:07] <David_Icke> These people have power simply because people hand over their power to them in many and various ways. We in fact control our own reality if only we realised
[14:32:02] <David_Icke> and because we don't appreciate that it means that we give that power away all the time. I choose not to and I cannot be harmed unless I allow that reality to enter mine - and I donćt.
[14:33:38] <David_Icke> Forexample, all the people in my line of work who have had bad things happen and sometimes been killed were people who either predicted it would happen or feared it. That allows the experience to become manifest. If we don't let that into our perception of possiblity it cannot physically manifest ..
[14:33:59] <David_Icke> but there are other reasons I am still here also. And I am not going until I am ready.
[14:34:01] <TModerator>  I am shure that flight 77 didnt hit the pentagon but I am wondering where did that plane ended up and where are the people from that plane? Thanks
[14:35:39] <David_Icke> It is very clear that the 'planes' on 911 were remotely controlled, a technology that is very simple and has been available to the US miltary for at least 4 odd years - as official documents confirm.
[14:37:59] <David_Icke> In the Summer of 911, a document came to light from the official US records called Operation Northwoods, which described a plan in the early 1960s to fake terrorist events in US cities including the use of remotely controlled planes that they were going to blame on Cuba to justify a US invasion of that country. It didn't happen because it seems the Kennedy adminstration said no, but 911 was straight out of Operation Northwoods ..
[14:38:02] <TModerator> I would like to know if you know any illuminati families in Croatia?
[14:39:03] <David_Icke> The Northwoods plan included a plan to put their own people on a sheduled flight that was due to fly over Cuba ...
[14:39:55] <David_Icke> using what the document called 'aliases' and have the remotely controlled plane take over in Florida airspace
[14:40:16] <David_Icke> while the plane with the fake passengers was landed at Elgin airforce base ...
[14:41:01] <David_Icke> The remotely controlled plane, painted in the same colours. was then planned to be expoded by radio signal over Cuba and the cubans blamed.
[14:41:41] <David_Icke> Maybe in this case the passengers were genuine, in which case they will no longer be with us, or maybe it was like the Northwoods plan.
[14:43:14] <David_Icke> Given this is my first visit, I have not had time to research Croatian bloodlines, but what for the word 'royal' either now or past or 'aristocratic' and they will often lead to the manipulators of a country ...
[14:44:05] <David_Icke> this does not mean necessarilly official 'roayal' or 'aristocrat' now, but in the past. It is the DNA that matters, not the title or family name.
[14:44:12] <TModerator> Who started the war in Croatia?
[14:46:11] <David_Icke> Starting wars is so easy because of the way humans give their power away and don't ask questions. All you need is one aggressor and you have a war when the target defends itself. If you have a region where people are feircely following religious or ethnic beliefs it can be a powerkeg just waiting for a spark
[14:48:32] <David_Icke> Beliefs are no problem in this regard so long as people don't seek to make their belief, ethnic line or relgion 'top dog' over others. When that happens conflict is a certainty eventually as 'leaders' appeal to those beliefs in superiority to get large numbers to support their action against a target people. It is a process that has been repeated the world over for as long as history can record and we can only break that cycle by not see
[14:48:58] <David_Icke> Then the leaders will not have the backing they need to start wars. As they said in the 1960s ...
[14:49:14] <David_Icke> what would happen if they had a war and no-one turned up ...
[14:49:42] <David_Icke> the people flight wars, not the leaders, they just declare them. Once again the power is with us, but we give it away.
[14:50:33] <David_Icke> As for who started the war in this region of the world ... I would say look in the usual direction to the US, britain and the leaders of Israel ..
[14:50:47] <David_Icke> It is the combnation that comes up over and over
[14:51:00] <David_Icke> and we see it again today in Iraq etc.
[14:51:01] <TModerator>  what you think about Barack Obama?
[14:51:51] <David_Icke> He is a fraud and a front man for a guy called Brezinski, the national security advisor to Jimmy carter ...
[14:54:01] <David_Icke> also behind Obama is the notorious global financier George Soros, the man whi funded the 'Peoples' revolution in Georgia known as the 'Rose revolution' which installed the current Predient of georgia who took the decicision to attack South Ossetia and trigger the Russian response. That guy was trained in America, went to US law school etc., and would not cough without US permission.
[14:55:08] <David_Icke> Obama is the same, funded and controlled by Brezinski who created the Illuminati's Trilateral Commission in 1973 and connects into the Neoconservative cabal behind Bush. Bush, Obama, McCain are all masks on the same face.
[14:55:13] <TModerator> What do you think about Ante Gotovina and all that "den Haag problem" Croatia has...? Is he a scapegoat or potential war criminal who must be in court? And should we cooperate with den Haag, if there are some states (USA) who just don't have to?
[14:56:40] <David_Icke> I can't speak about this case because I am not researched enough on that situation, but what I can say is that the court is a farce because it only tries people for war crimes that suit the agenda. The biggest war criminals on the planet
[14:57:33] <David_Icke> currently are people like Bush, Blair and Kissinger, among so many others in the US and UK, but they are never brought to justice through the courts that try others.
[14:57:50] <TModerator> Do you think that there is enough oil on eart but some politicions just making panic in the world so they can take more money? What will be the price in the next 5 years?
[14:58:50] <David_Icke> Yes, for sure. There is fanastic oil potential in Alaska alone and what they call 'Peak Oil' is a scam to justify high prices and nuclear power ..
[14:59:15] <David_Icke> But the biggest angle on this is not the oil, but the suppression of free energy
[14:59:25] <David_Icke> technology that does not require oil.
[14:59:39] <David_Icke> This is not a theory, I have personally seen it in action.
[15:00:22] <David_Icke> The technology takes energy from the 'etheric field' that we can feel, but cannot see because it is outside the frequency range of human sight.
[15:01:02] <David_Icke> It transfers that energy into usuable power and a piece of kit the size of a shoebox or less can give
[15:01:53] <David_Icke> you the power to run your home. What's more, once you have the technology the power is free .. it costs nothing and pollutes nothing.
[15:02:19] <David_Icke> Okay, why don't we have this available to everyone?
[15:03:09] <David_Icke> Think what freedom that would give us and it would end our dependency on the power and oil corporations. That's why it is suppressed when I repeat, I have seen it work.
[15:03:11] <TModerator> So many good questions but so little time. Well, people will have the cahnce to hear more from you at friday - David, for the end you can invite the people to come and tell them what can they expect from your lecture?
[15:04:13] <David_Icke> On Friday, I will be talking for three hours (I could easily do ten!) connecting the dots between apparently unconnected people, events and organisations.
[15:05:09] <David_Icke> Also, I will be going into the nature of our reality. How can we be free and understand what is happening when we don't know who we are, where we are, and the nature of the reality we are experiencing?
[15:05:43] <David_Icke> We can't, and that's why I spend so much time researching this. The world is, on all levels, nothing like we have thought it is.
[15:06:06] <David_Icke> Thanks so much for your interest ... good luck to Croatia tonight!
[15:06:07] <TModerator> thank you david and thank you all for your questions. bye